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		<title>By: Heather Lloyd-Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.seocopywriting.com/freelance-seo-copywriting/discount-copywriting-rates/#comment-232039</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather Lloyd-Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the love, @Mike!

Yes, I love the idea of throwing in Z (whatever Z is.) Offering clients things that don&#039;t take me much time/effort to pull together - but are huge value-adds to the client - work well as the add-on. Plus, it shows that you are trying to work with the client&#039;s situation. That&#039;s perfect!

Great feedback! Thank you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the love, @Mike!</p>
<p>Yes, I love the idea of throwing in Z (whatever Z is.) Offering clients things that don&#8217;t take me much time/effort to pull together &#8211; but are huge value-adds to the client &#8211; work well as the add-on. Plus, it shows that you are trying to work with the client&#8217;s situation. That&#8217;s perfect!</p>
<p>Great feedback! Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 10:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post!

Especially this part - &quot;Offer to eliminate a deliverable from the agreement.&quot; 

I have found that you can actually turn a potentially awkward/negative situation like that into an awesome-now-the-client-loves-you-forever situation simply by phrasing it like: 

&quot;I totally understand. While I can&#039;t offer you the same package we discussed earlier at that price, I can do X and Y and I would be happy to throw in Z as well.&quot; 

Takes the focus off your service reduction and puts it back into a scenario of you over-delivering to your client. 

P.S. I love your blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!</p>
<p>Especially this part &#8211; &#8220;Offer to eliminate a deliverable from the agreement.&#8221; </p>
<p>I have found that you can actually turn a potentially awkward/negative situation like that into an awesome-now-the-client-loves-you-forever situation simply by phrasing it like: </p>
<p>&#8220;I totally understand. While I can&#8217;t offer you the same package we discussed earlier at that price, I can do X and Y and I would be happy to throw in Z as well.&#8221; </p>
<p>Takes the focus off your service reduction and puts it back into a scenario of you over-delivering to your client. </p>
<p>P.S. I love your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Lloyd-Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather Lloyd-Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 21:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great comments, guys!

@Igor - I like your yearly/every 3 month pricing options. They&#039;re easy to understand, and offer an incentive for paying up-front. Plus, your upsell idea is brilliant! Well done!

@Kate - Yeah, I&#039;ve never heard of a &quot;we&#039;ll give you more work later&quot; promise ever panning out for the copywriter. I&#039;m sure someone has made it work...but no one I know....

@Susan...Actually, I have asked service folks for a discount (but that&#039;s just me!) ;) Having said that, I happily paid full price if I was told no - and I didn&#039;t make any promises about &quot;more work later.&quot; A healthy negotiation is one thing. Basing your hiring decision on whether or not someone discounts their rates is another...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments, guys!</p>
<p>@Igor &#8211; I like your yearly/every 3 month pricing options. They&#8217;re easy to understand, and offer an incentive for paying up-front. Plus, your upsell idea is brilliant! Well done!</p>
<p>@Kate &#8211; Yeah, I&#8217;ve never heard of a &#8220;we&#8217;ll give you more work later&#8221; promise ever panning out for the copywriter. I&#8217;m sure someone has made it work&#8230;but no one I know&#8230;.</p>
<p>@Susan&#8230;Actually, I have asked service folks for a discount (but that&#8217;s just me!) <img src='http://www.seocopywriting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Having said that, I happily paid full price if I was told no &#8211; and I didn&#8217;t make any promises about &#8220;more work later.&#8221; A healthy negotiation is one thing. Basing your hiring decision on whether or not someone discounts their rates is another&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Susan B . Bentley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan B . Bentley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post! I continually keep in the back of my mind &quot;would you ask a plumber for a discount or a &#039;trial&#039; period?&quot;  The answer is always an emphatic no. When a prospect starts with this kind of nickle and diming, you know it&#039;ll just keep happening - just say no and let someone else deal with them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! I continually keep in the back of my mind &#8220;would you ask a plumber for a discount or a &#8216;trial&#8217; period?&#8221;  The answer is always an emphatic no. When a prospect starts with this kind of nickle and diming, you know it&#8217;ll just keep happening &#8211; just say no and let someone else deal with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor Mateski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Igor Mateski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The way I do sales is first lay out the project with all the benefits listed, list the prices and then give them a list of 2-3 possible payment plans and each has a sort of a discount. But I always make sure I get all the payment up front, and it&#039;s non-negotiable. Here&#039;s a sample
Monthly fee $500 
Option 1: Full year in advance $6000, pay now and save $500
Option 2: Trimester payment of $1500 at beginning of each trimester

I found that when people want to save, it&#039;s usually just a bargaining hunger they want to fulfill, so I have an extra something I can add to the pile. Eg. &quot;If you pay the full annual fee I&#039;ll throw in 3 extra texts&quot;.
Getting money-discounts is actually not as good cause you end up doing the work and getting less money. Instead, it&#039;s better to hold your ground on pricing and add an extra service. The point is that you try to maximize the dollar value of each client, not to reduce work done per client. I&#039;ve found this is a good way to keep people happy and keep asking for more. With the &quot;I&#039;ll throw in an extra XYZ&quot; you can always open a door to sell a new service. That&#039;s what I did just a month ago, offered a free month of Social Marketing and I now have an open door to pitch for monthly Social pack. 

Hope this helps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I do sales is first lay out the project with all the benefits listed, list the prices and then give them a list of 2-3 possible payment plans and each has a sort of a discount. But I always make sure I get all the payment up front, and it&#8217;s non-negotiable. Here&#8217;s a sample<br />
Monthly fee $500<br />
Option 1: Full year in advance $6000, pay now and save $500<br />
Option 2: Trimester payment of $1500 at beginning of each trimester</p>
<p>I found that when people want to save, it&#8217;s usually just a bargaining hunger they want to fulfill, so I have an extra something I can add to the pile. Eg. &#8220;If you pay the full annual fee I&#8217;ll throw in 3 extra texts&#8221;.<br />
Getting money-discounts is actually not as good cause you end up doing the work and getting less money. Instead, it&#8217;s better to hold your ground on pricing and add an extra service. The point is that you try to maximize the dollar value of each client, not to reduce work done per client. I&#8217;ve found this is a good way to keep people happy and keep asking for more. With the &#8220;I&#8217;ll throw in an extra XYZ&#8221; you can always open a door to sell a new service. That&#8217;s what I did just a month ago, offered a free month of Social Marketing and I now have an open door to pitch for monthly Social pack. </p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Toon Copywriter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Toon Copywriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post. 

I agree with all your suggestions. I very much believe in sticking to your guns, and &#039;you get what you pay for&#039;. I&#039;ve often had clients move on as I&#039;m too expensive only to later come back.

Another option is to split the cost up, allow them to pay it over more time.

Or offer them a little discount for a back link to your site.

One thing I would add is don&#039;t be fooled by &#039;this is the first of many projects&#039; - as after you&#039;ve given in and dropped your rate in the hope of more work, it often never materialises.

Thanks Heather!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. </p>
<p>I agree with all your suggestions. I very much believe in sticking to your guns, and &#8216;you get what you pay for&#8217;. I&#8217;ve often had clients move on as I&#8217;m too expensive only to later come back.</p>
<p>Another option is to split the cost up, allow them to pay it over more time.</p>
<p>Or offer them a little discount for a back link to your site.</p>
<p>One thing I would add is don&#8217;t be fooled by &#8216;this is the first of many projects&#8217; &#8211; as after you&#8217;ve given in and dropped your rate in the hope of more work, it often never materialises.</p>
<p>Thanks Heather!</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ouch. Sorry to hear that, Mike.  That&#039;s one advantage to getting a deposit - you know that you&#039;ll be paid *something* for your work (even if the client flakes out.)

It was VERY smart of you to keep an email trail, too.  Well done!

Thanks for your comment!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch. Sorry to hear that, Mike.  That&#8217;s one advantage to getting a deposit &#8211; you know that you&#8217;ll be paid *something* for your work (even if the client flakes out.)</p>
<p>It was VERY smart of you to keep an email trail, too.  Well done!</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Elleston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Elleston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All the comments are very interesting.  I shall remember them for the future.  I do not charge a deposit etc if the job is fairly small say up to 5 pages. But recently I had a client who asked me to produce the copy for his new web site.  I did it, plus all his revisions, all the SEO bits and he confirmed it all as great.  But failed to pay.  When pressed he said, he did not like it, could not use and had never received any copy.  The odd bit was his website contained it word for word.  I keep a careful email trail of everything.  My solution was to send in a firm of bailiffs.  They came out with the money and their fees. So both of us earned from this wazzock.

You meet a few in tbis business !!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the comments are very interesting.  I shall remember them for the future.  I do not charge a deposit etc if the job is fairly small say up to 5 pages. But recently I had a client who asked me to produce the copy for his new web site.  I did it, plus all his revisions, all the SEO bits and he confirmed it all as great.  But failed to pay.  When pressed he said, he did not like it, could not use and had never received any copy.  The odd bit was his website contained it word for word.  I keep a careful email trail of everything.  My solution was to send in a firm of bailiffs.  They came out with the money and their fees. So both of us earned from this wazzock.</p>
<p>You meet a few in tbis business !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 21:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Mike!

A small discount for paying the contract up front - sure.

50% - no way. I totally agree! :)  

Thanks for your comment!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Mike!</p>
<p>A small discount for paying the contract up front &#8211; sure.</p>
<p>50% &#8211; no way. I totally agree! <img src='http://www.seocopywriting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Thanks for your comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep - dropping your rates isn&#039;t on if you believe they are what you&#039;re worth.  Frankly, if a client told me they only had budget for half then I would offer to write them half the number of pages.

I do like the idea of being paid up front for a small discount, however.  Not sure it would be worth a 50% hit though!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep &#8211; dropping your rates isn&#8217;t on if you believe they are what you&#8217;re worth.  Frankly, if a client told me they only had budget for half then I would offer to write them half the number of pages.</p>
<p>I do like the idea of being paid up front for a small discount, however.  Not sure it would be worth a 50% hit though!</p>
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