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	<title>Comments on: Do you really need a copywriting contract?</title>
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		<title>By: Heather Lloyd-Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.seocopywriting.com/freelance-seo-copywriting/working-with-clients/copywriting-contract/#comment-171857</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather Lloyd-Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Claire - what a great story. You illustrate a fantastic point - contracts may seem &quot;scary&quot; or overkill, but they get everyone on the same page. You may think, &quot;Of course the client would know that my travel fees are extra.&quot; But clients may not think the same way we do - and that perceptual difference can cost us money (plus, make things weird with the client.)

Congratulations on keeping the client and being able to attend the meeting via conference call. I&#039;m sure that was a hard conversation...

Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Claire &#8211; what a great story. You illustrate a fantastic point &#8211; contracts may seem &#8220;scary&#8221; or overkill, but they get everyone on the same page. You may think, &#8220;Of course the client would know that my travel fees are extra.&#8221; But clients may not think the same way we do &#8211; and that perceptual difference can cost us money (plus, make things weird with the client.)</p>
<p>Congratulations on keeping the client and being able to attend the meeting via conference call. I&#8217;m sure that was a hard conversation&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Claire Hawes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claire Hawes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Heather,

This post caught my attention as I had a contract related issue recently.

I have a client who loves meetings... preferably in London - 50 miles from my home on the South Coast. I charge by the hour. I charge &#039;out of pocket costs&#039; - such as travel separately. Up until now all has been fine.

In my last quote, I dropped the line about &#039;out of pocket expenses&#039; - due to would you believe - space purposes. I wanted my quote to fit neatly on a page.

For my latest project I was asked to attend a meeting - 260 miles from my home. Out of courtesy I asked whether the company would be happy for me to save circa 6 hours travelling time by train, by flying up for an extra £20 ($31). I am so glad I asked - as I was told that from now on the company would not pay my travelling and meeting expenses, as their web developer doesn&#039;t charge for meetings. I was expected to give away a day of my time for free and incur the cost of travel - £100 ($157).

I suggested the web developer may charge for his time differently - by day, and would build in meeting time into his quote somewhere.

After a very difficult conversation - I will now attend the meeting via conference call. 

But, in the back of my mind I am still thinking about the fact that if I hadn&#039;t had asked the question about flying - and just attended the meeting - I would have been quite severely out of pocket!

So the moral of this story is - yes I totally believe in contracts. I like your idea of having a lawyer look them over. And will contacting one in the near future.

Thank you very much.

Claire]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Heather,</p>
<p>This post caught my attention as I had a contract related issue recently.</p>
<p>I have a client who loves meetings&#8230; preferably in London &#8211; 50 miles from my home on the South Coast. I charge by the hour. I charge &#8216;out of pocket costs&#8217; &#8211; such as travel separately. Up until now all has been fine.</p>
<p>In my last quote, I dropped the line about &#8216;out of pocket expenses&#8217; &#8211; due to would you believe &#8211; space purposes. I wanted my quote to fit neatly on a page.</p>
<p>For my latest project I was asked to attend a meeting &#8211; 260 miles from my home. Out of courtesy I asked whether the company would be happy for me to save circa 6 hours travelling time by train, by flying up for an extra £20 ($31). I am so glad I asked &#8211; as I was told that from now on the company would not pay my travelling and meeting expenses, as their web developer doesn&#8217;t charge for meetings. I was expected to give away a day of my time for free and incur the cost of travel &#8211; £100 ($157).</p>
<p>I suggested the web developer may charge for his time differently &#8211; by day, and would build in meeting time into his quote somewhere.</p>
<p>After a very difficult conversation &#8211; I will now attend the meeting via conference call. </p>
<p>But, in the back of my mind I am still thinking about the fact that if I hadn&#8217;t had asked the question about flying &#8211; and just attended the meeting &#8211; I would have been quite severely out of pocket!</p>
<p>So the moral of this story is &#8211; yes I totally believe in contracts. I like your idea of having a lawyer look them over. And will contacting one in the near future.</p>
<p>Thank you very much.</p>
<p>Claire</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Lloyd-Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.seocopywriting.com/freelance-seo-copywriting/working-with-clients/copywriting-contract/#comment-171463</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather Lloyd-Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Kevin!

Thanks for your comment!

To answer your first question - a template contract is &quot;just OK.&quot; It&#039;s more than nothing, but I recommend having your &quot;own&quot; contract ASAP.  You can also take a template contract into an attorney and ask him/her to customize it - that may save some $$ in attorney fees, too!

To answer your second question...well, your question was SO good, that I think it will be next Monday&#039;s video post. Stay tuned...and thank you! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kevin!</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment!</p>
<p>To answer your first question &#8211; a template contract is &#8220;just OK.&#8221; It&#8217;s more than nothing, but I recommend having your &#8220;own&#8221; contract ASAP.  You can also take a template contract into an attorney and ask him/her to customize it &#8211; that may save some $$ in attorney fees, too!</p>
<p>To answer your second question&#8230;well, your question was SO good, that I think it will be next Monday&#8217;s video post. Stay tuned&#8230;and thank you! <img src='http://www.seocopywriting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Carlton</title>
		<link>http://www.seocopywriting.com/freelance-seo-copywriting/working-with-clients/copywriting-contract/#comment-170811</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Carlton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heather

I look forward to your next post on the subject of copywriting contracts.

There are, in particular, 2 issues that I&#039;d love to hear your views about. These are:

(i) Your thoughts on template contracts that you can download from the web.

(ii) Small one-off copywriting jobs, where a contract may seem OTT for just a few hours&#039; work.

Just curious as to whether you&#039;d be covering these 2 points in future instalments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather</p>
<p>I look forward to your next post on the subject of copywriting contracts.</p>
<p>There are, in particular, 2 issues that I&#8217;d love to hear your views about. These are:</p>
<p>(i) Your thoughts on template contracts that you can download from the web.</p>
<p>(ii) Small one-off copywriting jobs, where a contract may seem OTT for just a few hours&#8217; work.</p>
<p>Just curious as to whether you&#8217;d be covering these 2 points in future instalments.</p>
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